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Posted on: CLIMATEGATE
at 11/25/2009 9:35am

I believe that any news agency that has a vested intrest in the political left will do as much as possible to let this ... more(+)

I believe that any news agency that has a vested intrest in the political left will do as much as possible to let this scandal blow over so that they can get back to pushing the global warming epidemic hysteria. close(-)

Posted on: Why Science cannot disprove a God
at 11/25/2009 8:12am

If you would, please show us an example of how matter or energy follows any law of logic. You keep asserting that this ... more(+)

Another comment ...humans have evolved the ability to reason and therefore I presume "created" logic...that is illogical.

Just because you state that logic is some immaterial ever present force does not make it so, and that statement alone does not lend any support to connecting logic to God. Logic is a product of our conciouss minds. This can be demonstrated to be so by FMRI's. If a subject is asked a question there are areas of the brain that are activated that shows the logic process stems from our minds. Not some imaginary force.

The laws of Logic are not contigent apon our ability to reason..we reason because the laws of Logic dictate to us what is reasonable..we are captive to logic not the other way around as I have already stipulated.

Logic and reason are synonomous. This statement is the same as saying that we have the ability use use logic(reason) because we have the ability to use logic (reason). This is completly circular, though given your user name I could see why you would make such a statement.

The Laws of Logic do exist and cannot have been created by anything that we have been able to observe or postulate, other than the Christian God of the bible. If you think otherwise postulate a mechanism by which these laws could possibly have been created.

First off there is no such thing as a law of logic. Second it is entirely possible that our ability to reason has been brought about by millions of years of evolution to the human mind. We can already see that animals are able to use reasoning (logic) inorder to figure out puzzles. So there is nothing there that sets us apart from the other animals, other than the fact that we seem to be more adapt at our cognitive abilities.

Matter and energy obey the laws of logic along with all other "things".

If you would, please show us an example of how matter or energy follows any law of logic. You keep asserting that this is true without demonstrating or providing any sort of evidence how it is true. So maybe an example that we can discuss would help to see where you are coming from. close(-)

Posted on: Why Science cannot disprove a God
at 11/24/2009 3:51pm

Hello circularreason,


That is not proof of God. You are trying to connect two different ideas without any ... more(+)

Hello circularreason,

The very word prove ultimately is entirely "subjective" for each individual.

But for science's purpose proof would have to be in the form of objective and verifiable evidence. That is why science cannot prove the existence or non-existence of God, because it lacks any objective evidence.

If something exists...something must have always existed...you cannot have something pop into existence from nothing...that is a logical fallacy..complete nonsense.

And yet physics postulates that virtual particles can appear from nothing then recombine within a plank length of time to cancel each other out. That is how we get hawking radiation. Though we do not know what causes this phenomenon its effects are verifiable. So matter can just "pop" into existence.

Can the Atheistic worldview account for the existence of these laws? We find no scientific basis at all within the materialistic worldview of atheism that offers a mechanism by which such laws could possibly arise.

Well I don't know about Atheistic worldviews, I guess you mean evolutionary world view. (The two are not synonymous)
But evolution can describe why rules and laws would form. It is by the advantage bestowed by co-operation. Co-operation bestows a survival advantage so cooperative traits would be more likely to be selected for and be more represented in the population.

I have given very definite evidence. The fact that logic exists, that you have to use it to make your point, and that it is universal. That is clear evidence that God does exist.

That is not proof of God. You are trying to connect two different ideas without any correlation. There is no direct evidence that God is the source of logic, and plenty of evidence that suggests that logic is the product of an evolved brain. close(-)

Posted on: The Future of the Climate Debate?
at 11/23/2009 12:19pm

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/enviro ... -data.html

What do you believe will be the after math inregards to the global warming debate, now that information has been released that data may have been manipulated to support global warming? close(-)

Posted on: POLL - Will the World End in 2012?
at 11/20/2009 11:20am

What I am wondering is who were the 31 people that are sure the world is going to end in 2012? And why have they not ... more(+)

What I am wondering is who were the 31 people that are sure the world is going to end in 2012? And why have they not left any comments? Were they just clicking on the poll for fun or do they actually believe this? close(-)

Commented on: The Evolution of Religion
at 2009-11-27 18:04:44

" Instead of assuming that religion somehow "evolved" for an ambiguous purpose why not postulate that God did appear at ... more(+)

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Commented on: Causes of Falls for Elderly Pinned Down
at 2009-11-27 14:24:50

Damn beet me to it. LOL

Commented on: Top 10 Things that Make Humans Special
at 2009-11-27 11:15:43

Sorry you leave yourself open that much I am going to get in my jab. It's just in jest though so please don't be too ... more(+)

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Commented on: POLL: Your View of Human Evolution
at 2009-11-27 08:54:30

Whokilledgod writes: "Next thing they'd ask us if mice created the world..."

Yes inorder to figure out the question ... more(+)

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Commented on: Top 10 Things that Make Humans Special
at 2009-11-27 08:35:45

"Do you know of any segment in our society that don't find love?"

A few internet bloggers come to mind that might ... more(+)

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